What are the M1 Garand weak points? - Page 3

abc38419 · 11-02-2009, 06:48

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Originally Posted by BobSmith

I was not aware that the original m14 had any plastic on them.

IIRC, and it has been a while, on the rifles we were issued, the stock was wood, probably walnut, but the handguard was a slotted, flimsy kind of fiberglass or plastic-type material. Didn't look nice, didn't feel nice, seemed flimsy, didn't inspire confidence

but some of these reactions were just reactions to change. I really liked the Springfield and the Garand.

rice paddy daddy · 11-03-2009, 08:09

It was a synthetic of some type. Brown. I understand that some M14's had synthetic stocks also, although none of the ones I used did. Fred's lists some in his ad.
My current SA M1A was built in '94 back when they were still using USGI parts and it has the brown "plastic" upper hand guard.

Joe Garibaldi · 11-03-2009, 16:55

All the handguards were slotted plastic.

Later on, and I don't know why (but suspect to reduce weight), they started making fiberglass stocks. I guess that counts as synthetic, but not what we mean when we refer to modern synthetic stocks.

All I know about this is from my high school ROTC. We eventually ran out of wood stocks and they started sending us the fiberglass. The wood stocks would survive all sorts of abuse, but the fiberglass ones broke very easily. Would hate to think of those being used in hand-to-hand combat.

According to our SMI's (all but one of whom had served in combat in Vietnam), these fiberglass stocks were never issued in the field.

WILDCATT · 11-07-2009, 12:54

the M1 was made and used with a magazine called a BM59.
the M14 was designed to be full auto not because of the M1 clip.full auto needs more ammo.what do you think a soldier does when the clip is near empty.he dumps the thing and puts another in.who cares about the live ammo. as to the clips the Italians and Austians,Dutch,and Germany,Turkey used mannlichers with enblock clips from 1890s to end of WW2.
the M14 failed as a full auto.thats why the M16 came into being,that can be shot full auto.the russians and french and germans and mexicans had auto loaders in WW1.they were to fragil.and the win 351/35 was used by russia in WW1.the rem mod 8 is basis for the French chauchat.and the safety is seen on the AK47.

11-03-2009, 08:09	#62
rice paddy daddy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northeast Florida Posts: 43	It was a synthetic of some type. Brown. I understand that some M14's had synthetic stocks also, although none of the ones I used did. Fred's lists some in his ad. My current SA M1A was built in '94 back when they were still using USGI parts and it has the brown "plastic" upper hand guard. Last edited by rice paddy daddy; 11-03-2009 at 08:18.

11-07-2009, 12:54	#64
WILDCATT Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MANNING SC Posts: 46	M1 vis M14 the M1 was made and used with a magazine called a BM59. the M14 was designed to be full auto not because of the M1 clip.full auto needs more ammo.what do you think a soldier does when the clip is near empty.he dumps the thing and puts another in.who cares about the live ammo. as to the clips the Italians and Austians,Dutch,and Germany,Turkey used mannlichers with enblock clips from 1890s to end of WW2. the M14 failed as a full auto.thats why the M16 came into being,that can be shot full auto.the russians and french and germans and mexicans had auto loaders in WW1.they were to fragil.and the win 351/35 was used by russia in WW1.the rem mod 8 is basis for the French chauchat.and the safety is seen on the AK47.

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11-03-2009, 16:55	#63
Joe Garibaldi Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Hill Posts: 1,395	All the handguards were slotted plastic. Later on, and I don't know why (but suspect to reduce weight), they started making fiberglass stocks. I guess that counts as synthetic, but not what we mean when we refer to modern synthetic stocks. All I know about this is from my high school ROTC. We eventually ran out of wood stocks and they started sending us the fiberglass. The wood stocks would survive all sorts of abuse, but the fiberglass ones broke very easily. Would hate to think of those being used in hand-to-hand combat. According to our SMI's (all but one of whom had served in combat in Vietnam), these fiberglass stocks were never issued in the field.