White House vs FOX

[2dumb2kwit]

Originally Posted by mini-gal

You are referring to written text. No one yelled.

In most on-line forums, large type, bold type, or all cap's is generally considered yelling.

A little etiquette, may attract more people to your message.

Just sayin'.

[freesw]

Originally Posted by mini-gal

I see. So now all of sudden, you are not going to push, the phony "left v right" illusion.

There's nothing "phony" about the distinction between left/right. It's just an oversimplification of more complex distinctions. Your attempt to gloss over it altogether is an even further oversimplification, taught by demagogues like Alex Jones for their own aggrandizement.

[mini-gal]

Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

In most on-line forums, large type, bold type, or all cap's is generally considered yelling.

A little etiquette, may attract more people to your message.

Just sayin'.

I think one would have to be insecure in oneself, to misconstrue a message devoid of any and all personal invective, being addressed broadly to all as a notice, as somehow an attempt by anyone to "yell at you".

[2dumb2kwit]

Originally Posted by mini-gal

I think one would have to be insecure in oneself, to misconstrue a message devoid of any and all personal invective, being addressed broadly to all as a notice, as somehow an attempt by anyone to "yell at you".

Yeah....maybe that's it.

[mini-gal]

Originally Posted by freesw

There's nothing "phony" about the distinction between left/right. It's just an oversimplification of more complex distinctions. Your attempt to gloss over it altogether is an even further oversimplification, taught by demagogues like Alex Jones for their own aggrandizement.

I disagree with your oversimplification of this. I am certainly not one to gloss over this issue either. Your effrontery, via such an unwarranted accusation and the accompanying patronizing tone, is all so very media like as well. You really are quite good with SPIN. Too good really.

In today's world, the left and right are MEDIA defined, for one thing.

The Media reinforces 'points of separation', through repeated appeals to base emotions such as fear and loathing, painting those on the left and right, as defined by them, as bad people .... who are a terrible threat ..... to each other.

It is exceedingly difficult, more often than not, to tell really just "which side" the media is warning. So "which side" are they on? Why their own side of course, and surely they laugh at, all the many simple minded fools, whom they have manged to so polarize and set against each other. Divide and conquer is as old as time. The NAZIs, employed the same devices which cool dark mastery, just as did the Soviets. Crack open a history book or two.

The media draws an artificial line of separation between their 'left and right', defining each as those, who are for example, either heartless lazy unemployed sluts addicted to abortion, or pseudo-riche slobbering misogynist fascists bent on depriving women of control over their own bodies.



Bear in mind, that all of the media outlets have common ownership, being a small group of a few men who share membership in The Trilateral Commission and The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). This is not "conspiracy theory". It is upon you to educate yourself though.

[bugeye]

Originally Posted by mini-gal

I disagree with your oversimplification of this. I am certainly not one to gloss over this issue either. Your effrontery, via such an unwarranted accusation and the accompanying patronizing tone, is all so very media like as well. You really are quite good with SPIN. Too good really.

In today's world, the left and right are MEDIA defined, for one thing.

The Media reinforces 'points of separation', through repeated appeals to base emotions such as fear and loathing, painting those on the left and right, as defined by them, as bad people .... who are a terrible threat ..... to each other.

It is exceedingly difficult, more often than not, to tell really just "which side" the media is warning. So "which side" are they on? Why their own side of course, and surely they laugh at, all the many simple minded fools, whom they have manged to so polarize and set against each other. Divide and conquer is as old as time. The NAZIs, employed the same devices which cool dark mastery, just as did the Soviets. Crack open a history book or two.

The media draws an artificial line of separation between their 'left and right', defining each as those, who are for example, either heartless lazy unemployed sluts addicted to abortion, or pseudo-riche slobbering misogynist fascists bent on depriving women of control over their own bodies.



Bear in mind, that all of the media outlets have common ownership, being a small group of a few men who share membership in The Trilateral Commission and The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). This is not "conspiracy theory". It is upon you to educate yourself though.

Well, good read, I enjoyed your post.
I don't know where this new found intelligence has come from but it's a big improvement. Of course this might not be original material?

Media is providing a flow that is polarizing the country, yes.

I'm not on board with your conspiracy hypothesis though. And you provide no facts to back it up, just some name dropping, and this is the sort of tactic that you would question, as you've been well trained in that. I coudn't watch that goofy video for anymore than a few minutes, the music alone was enough to make me want to barf.

But you don't question the validity of your one world take on everything. It's a nice neat pile, but forces are always working against each other, and it is this struggle of power that had kept us as free as we are, for as long as its been. Where do you get all these powerful interests that have exactly the same goal in mind? You don't, ever, thank goodness!

One more thing, this isn't a simple goal either, it is one that counts on a predicted response to a particular stimulus, and it could backfire, or the prods could go astray and awaken a response that might destroy the conspirators. Why bother to take that chance, the powerful own it all anyway, what more do they want?

[mini-gal]

bugeye

Thank you for saying so. Yes it is original material. I wrote it, and I stand by it also.

I of course do not expect you, or anyone else for that matter, to simply accept what I have said about the world government. I would hope though, that you are wise enough, to look into this matter for yourself. To simply dismiss this, as another silly conspiracy theory, would be even far worse than being merely silly.

Use the link in my signature. Watch the entire Fall of The Republic movie, and then make your decision about it.

PS on EDIT


I hate the music too. I also find Alex Jones repugnant. He did good this time however. Hold your nose and watch the whole thing bug. You will be so glad you did.

[mustangdave]

Mini-Gal....I fear there will be a ONE WORLD Government...but I think...that WE can determine how its made up...it is not completely out of our hands...it very well could be though IF we allow it.

[bugeye]

Originally Posted by mini-gal

bugeye

Thank you for saying so. Yes it is original material. I wrote it, and I stand by it also.

I of course do not expect you, or anyone else for that matter, to simply accept what I have said about the world government. I would hope though, that you are wise enough, to look into this matter for yourself. To simply dismiss this, as another silly conspiracy theory, would be even far worse than being merely silly.

Use the link in my signature. Watch the entire Fall of The Republic movie, and then make your decision about it.

PS on EDIT


I hate the music too. I also find Alex Jones repugnant. He did good this time however. Hold your nose and watch the whole thing bug. You will be so glad you did.

OK, I'll give it another go.

[freesw]

Originally Posted by mustangdave

Mini-Gal....I fear there will be a ONE WORLD Government...but I think...that WE can determine how its made up...it is not completely out of our hands...it very well could be though IF we allow it.

Interesting. A One World Government is fine with you ... so long as it is a right wing one world government.

I of course have long recognized this threat to humanity. Rule by a cabal that idealizes the antebellum south. Yeah, that's change we can believe in.

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by freesw

Interesting. A One World Government is fine with you ... so long as it is a right wing one world government.

I of course have long recognized this threat to humanity. Rule by a cabal that idealizes the antebellum south. Yeah, that's change we can believe in.

Be happy, america is falling fast, isint that what you wanted? China will now take control of us since we are a failing investment, and nothing more than a long term liability.


The only shot at freedom america ever had was to de-fund the government, and keep it small with very limited power, I personally think its too late, especially with all the sissy moderates we have.

The rest of the world does not want to pay for a bunch crying Americans holding their hands out crying and tearing up for another welfare check and big screen tv.

[freesw]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Be happy, america is falling fast, isint that what you wanted? China will now take control of us since we are a failing investment, and nothing more than a long term liability.


The only shot at freedom america ever had was to de-fund the government, and keep it small with very limited power, I personally think its too late, especially with all the sissy moderates we have.

The rest of the world does not want to pay for a bunch crying Americans holding their hands out crying and tearing up for another welfare check and big screen tv.

You're a reliable apologist for everything multinationals do, what do you have to complain about? It's the ideology of you and those like you that got us into this economic mess.

[mustangdave]

Boy FREE....that was a quick trip to WINGNUT LAND....even for you. Where in my post did you read...RIGHT WING One World Government? I think you read way to much into it...antebellum southern cabal...??? WHEW...thats way out there even for you. But I suppose you need fuel for your fire...

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by freesw

You're a reliable apologist for everything multinationals do, what do you have to complain about? It's the ideology of you and those like you that got us into this economic mess.

No, it was the left that spent us into oblivion, and the truth is, they wanted it this way.


Who will you have to fund the trillions upon endless trillions in welfare programs that now define the new and not so free america, from healthcare, to food stamps and social security,from failed sub-prime loan programs to new home and land deal for Al Gore and Harry greed, from trillions in debt to trillions in future liability?

[2dumb2kwit]

Originally Posted by mustangdave

Boy FREE....that was a quick trip to WINGNUT LAND....even for you. Where in my post did you read...RIGHT WING One World Government? I think you read way to much into it...antebellum southern cabal...??? WHEW...thats way out there even for you. But I suppose you need fuel for your fire...

Maybe you used one of those words, that are code for the "N" word.
It would be easy enough to do, because according to the left, most words are.

[2dumb2kwit]

Originally Posted by freesw

You're a reliable apologist for everything multinationals do, what do you have to complain about? It's the ideology of you and those like you that got us into this economic mess.

Dang! Wrong again, free.

Please try again, later.

[mustangdave]

Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

Maybe you used one of those words, that are code for the "N" word.
It would be easy enough to do, because according to the left, most words are.

Nowhere in my post did I say...NUTJOB

[mustangdave]

Oh...and how is my saying "I FEAR a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT...equated to..."Interesting. A One World Government is fine with you ... so long as it is a right wing one world government."???

[kilroy63]

well dave, i read your post, and the last part said, IF WE ALLOW IT

i do not think most americans would allow it, lets hope that is so.....

[mini-gal]

Originally Posted by mustangdave

Mini-Gal....I fear there will be a ONE WORLD Government...but I think...that WE can determine how its made up...it is not completely out of our hands...it very well could be though IF we allow it.

Sadly, mustangdave, our will does not figure into their plans at all. US Presidents of both parties, have lied to us while committing high treason, and the global depression they have engineered is just getting started.

They will give us nothing. They have no regard for us, because we foolishly voted away our freedom long ago, and we have fallen for lie after lie after lie.

Why should they give us anything? Most people don't even realize that they are mere debt slaves, or indentured servants living in hope of freedom at best, and they are not free at all. People talk about freedom, all the time, and yet few even know what it is or what it feels like. The bank owns their house, their car, everything else of real value and the land it is on, and the government demands taxes for the privilege of ownership and everything else.

Before people can have anything they must first free their minds. They must realize that they are slaves, who have a God given right to be free, and then they must take their freedom and fight to keep it. It is not a privilege granted. No one can either give or be given freedom. You take it or leave it.

[mini-gal]

Originally Posted by bugeye

OK, I'll give it another go.

I am so glad to hear that bug. You will be very glad you kept an open mind.

Thank you for keepin it real.

[mustangdave]

Originally Posted by mini-gal

Sadly, mustangdave, our will does not figure into their plans at all. US Presidents of both parties, have lied to us while committing high treason, and the global depression they have engineered is just getting started.

They will give us nothing. They have no regard for us, because we foolishly voted away our freedom long ago, and we have fallen for lie after lie after lie.

Why should they give us anything? Most people don't even realize that they are mere debt slaves, or indentured servants living in hope of freedom at best, and they are not free at all. People talk about freedom, all the time, and yet few even know what it is or what it feels like. The bank owns their house, their car, everything else of real value and the land it is on, and the government demands taxes for the privilege of ownership and everything else.

Before people can have anything they must first free their minds. They must realize that they are slaves, who have a God given right to be free, and then they must take their freedom and fight to keep it. It is not a privilege granted. No one can either give or be given freedom. You take it or leave it.

your post almost makes me despondent...I do foresee a point in time where the Constitution will be hanging by a thread...I see hard times ahead and a lot of apathy...I wonder at time if there are enough "patriots" to make a difference...to really stand up for TRUE values and principles

[freesw]

Originally Posted by mustangdave

your post almost makes me despondent...I do foresee a point in time where the Constitution will be hanging by a thread...I see hard times ahead and a lot of apathy...I wonder at time if there are enough "patriots" to make a difference...to really stand up for TRUE values and principles

I'm despondent because so many people who do realize things are badly out of whack, are so unwilling to face the real sources of the problems. They're so busy scapegoating those they've been told to scapegoat, they're succumbed to a mob mentality and no longer think for themselves.

[bugeye]

Originally Posted by freesw

I'm despondent because so many people who do realize things are badly out of whack, are so unwilling to face the real sources of the problems. They're so busy scapegoating those they've been told to scapegoat, they're succumbed to a mob mentality and no longer think for themselves.

It's always easy to demonize the other side, and some of these folks are pretty transparent so it's hard to question your judgement but ...

Just suppose you had that power, to make others see the world just as you do and to acknowledge truth just as you see it, would you really use it?

I'm sure most of them would, but I bet we wouldn't. Yeah we drank the cool aid too, but not the whole damn pitcher! Sort of a small distinction don't you think? Yeah, well we did pick the other side, but maybe that was just external forces and nothing inherent in us?

So, maybe we just need to play in here, because loving the truth, that ego allows us to have, too much only leads to the refs throwing you out of playoff games.

[freesw]

Originally Posted by bugeye

Just suppose you had that power, to make others see the world just as you do and to acknowledge truth just as you see it, would you really use it?

You mean, like a Vulcan mind meld?



No, I don't think I'd put anyone through that.

[mustangdave]

FREE....humor? good one

[air]

Originally Posted by freesw

You're a reliable apologist for everything multinationals do, what do you have to complain about? It's the ideology of you and those like you that got us into this economic mess.

do a little research to see who has actually had controlling power for most of the last 60 or more years! i'll give you a hint nothe the republicans....... now whos economic mess is this really? just keep your head in the sand alittle longer.............by the way they both use each other to stay in power. until people quit voting for either the only change we will get is less and less freedom

[merlin]

I gotta go along with Mini on this one. Left/Right, it does not matter. This administration's nose is so far up the feds . . . . well you know where I mean, that when they can't find Obama, they check Ben Bernanke's colon first.

The idea that they are working towards a one world government isn't quite on target though. IMHO. I think that the goal is global population reduction, asset centralization and the ultimate power grab in all of history.

IMHO

[jjk308]

Originally Posted by merlin

The idea that they are working towards a one world government isn't quite on target though. IMHO. I think that the goal is global population reduction, asset centralization and the ultimate power grab in all of history.

They aren't that competent or anywhere near that smart.

They are bunglers who have been marinating in the Leftist utopian stew all their lives and are incapable of absorbing the lessons objective reality is handing them. And when their schemes fail its never their fault, or the fault of their ideology, which is, to them, perfect. So they resort to blaming others (Fox News, GW Bush...) and to coercion.

They think every real person is a dedicated, starry eyed one worlder Kumbaya singing, Starbucks swilling socialist and the rest of us are just cartoons. In their world view we are all psychiatric cases or ignorant and bitter yokels clinging to our guns and bibles.

[mustangdave]

A minor correction...when FDR was President...4 terms WAS NOT illegal. After he died in office the Constitution was Ammended...to reflect.